Druan
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Post by Druan on Nov 20, 2023 5:17:48 GMT
Thats a lie, what you want is to not believe, if you wanted to confirm magic exist you would have at least tried the meditations in the JoyofSatan website to see for yourself. This. I have attested, albeit a small amount. I have had actual results, which is more than I can say for any praying to "god" when I was a christian. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, but some don't want to eat. I knew a vegetarian once. She said she doesn't mind smelling animal product foods if someone has e.g. a burger near her, but she won't eat/drink any animal products. Needless to say, she is underweight and she admitted having health problems from lack of nutrition. She should eat the pudding to get the proof of how delicious magic is, but instead settles for passive... well, I don't know if it is enjoyment. How can you attest to anything? where you there when I tried the meditations?
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Post by factsorfeelings1234 on Nov 20, 2023 8:32:13 GMT
This. I have attested, albeit a small amount. I have had actual results, which is more than I can say for any praying to "god" when I was a christian. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, but some don't want to eat. I knew a vegetarian once. She said she doesn't mind smelling animal product foods if someone has e.g. a burger near her, but she won't eat/drink any animal products. Needless to say, she is underweight and she admitted having health problems from lack of nutrition. She should eat the pudding to get the proof of how delicious magic is, but instead settles for passive... well, I don't know if it is enjoyment. How can you attest to anything? This - If I understand you correctly, you are saying that you have a favorable view of the JoS because of the positive outcomes that you experienced from their meditations. These results were confirmed by others that had similar outcomes when practicing the meditations. Can you tell me more about these meditations and the outcomes that you experienced? I am in favour of the JoS, yes. This is my own opinion, and I am speaking from experience. The two meditations in question which I did were very basic ones - - vibrating a Word of Power in the process of opening the Third Eye. Posting about this, people replied (I forgot the replies; it is either on the current forum and I just can't remember the replies, or it was on the old forum and that is gone) and they confirmed or at least supported what I said about my experience, from their own knowledge/experience. My experience was of seeing a flash or blob of blue light where there was no blue light present;
- doing Void Meditation to still my thoughts and control my Mind - this was only a part of the result. The other part I am referring to here is that doing Void Meditation also helped me to visualise better, which was an entirely unintentional and unexpected result, so I consider that a bonus, a happy accident
I saw two other users posting about doing these themselves, respectively. The one doing the Opening the Third Eye meditation said they also saw blue while they were doing it; the other who did Void Meditation said it also helped them to visualise better. I consider these either direct confirmation that I was not delusional and just hallucinating, or if I am being sceptical, they still seems to point to the same, or very similar, conclusions, respectively, of our 3 results. It is like in scientific process of peer-reviewing - although these technically were not deliberate peer-reviewing situations, they very well could have been, and I consider it valid. I do resalise, however, that having more results by many individuals e.g. 1000 results by 1000 individuals would be so much better than merely 2 (excluding myself) to give a stronger, more solid determination, though. Regardless, their 2 respective results which they mentioned after having done their meditations separately from me were practically the same results as my own. Just these two situations alone are actual results, compared with christianity. These mere 2 results from my own meditations are more results than I ever had when I was a christian, which was zero. On top of that, with these two other users basically confirming it for me, even though they didn't intend to, that is something also not experienced in christianity. It's not a "god spoke to me" feeling; I did an exercise, and another, and I got results; later, 2 other individuals did the same exercises respectively and they came to the same, or very similar, results as I did. The Opening the Third Eye was very short in time - literally a couple of minutes each session and only for 4 days in a row. The Void Meditation I needed to build up longer, so that was more into the weeks timeframe for me, and the better visualisation happened not immediately and all at once; rather, it increased the more I did the Void Meditation. It was quite subtle because I hardly realised, but at a point - like I said, maybe 3 or so weeks into it - I realised that I could visualise better than I used to. I have not done other meditations since. I would like to share more experiences, though, and of course compare my results with that of others, but currently I have not done any other meditations at this point.
and this - "Ever in history" I wasn't there ...
You also weren't there.
I claim truth in JoS's meditations - i.e. I attest to it - based on my experience and results. I was not there when you did or did not do JoS meditations and you was not there when people in history did or did not show that spirituality and magic exist.
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Druan
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Post by Druan on Nov 20, 2023 8:38:39 GMT
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Post by snakeway666 on Nov 20, 2023 13:38:56 GMT
You are not going to be hit by a car, nothing harmfull will happen if it is not true. If your were trying to find the truth about the issue this would be enough, but you are a liar and likely a Jew.
Even in this absurd comparison to an elixir and the car If you drinked the e,ixir in front of me and got hit bhy the car I would admit it to be a Lie.
Me Drunk the Elixir and got invincible to cars Druan- Claim to drink the Elixir away from my sight and got hit by the car and end up in the hospital
Conclusion- Druan Lied about drinking the Elixir
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Post by snakeway666 on Nov 20, 2023 13:55:30 GMT
Addittional conclusion- Druan is willing to be hit by a car and end up in the hospital so he can shut it down and discredit the infortmation about the Elixir, because he didn't drunk in front of me if he wanted me to recognize his claim. Druan is making war against the knowledge of the Elixir, He is a Jew
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Post by Druan on Nov 20, 2023 16:48:54 GMT
Calling me a Jew is problematic for two reasons:
1. It doesn't strengthen your argument for having spiritual powers. 2. There is no objective proof that Judaism is real i.e. anything more than an idea in our imaginations.
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Post by factsorfeelings1234 on Nov 20, 2023 16:59:52 GMT
If someone was good enough to beat the JREF paranormal challenge, then they'd be able to be good enough to also have billions of whatever currency, so at the end of the day the JREF challenge wouldn't mean anything. Either that, or the practitioner wouldn't need a lot of money, so the incentive is wasted/lost on the good-enough practitioner. e.g. They might have their own smallholding with farm animals and crops which the food from they sell and make a decent enough income from that; a million would be teasing but unneeded.
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Post by Druan on Nov 20, 2023 17:20:44 GMT
If someone was good enough to beat the JREF paranormal challenge, then they'd be able to be good enough to also have billions of whatever currency, so at the end of the day the JREF challenge wouldn't mean anything. Either that, or the practitioner wouldn't need a lot of money, so the incentive is wasted/lost on the good-enough practitioner. e.g. They might have their own smallholding with farm animals and crops which the food from they sell and make a decent enough income from that; a million would be teasing but unneeded. But on the JREF website they state that the challenge isn't about the money. The money is just an incentive or bonus. The challenge is about the advancement of knowledge and uncovering truth about the paranormal. Anyway, the challenge was terminated shortly after James Randi's death in 2020. web.randi.org/the-million-dollar-challenge.html
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Post by snakeway666 on Nov 20, 2023 21:46:24 GMT
Calling me a Jew is problematic for two reasons: 1. It doesn't strengthen your argument for having spiritual powers. 2. There is no objective proof that Judaism is real i.e. anything more than an idea in our imaginations. 1- Those who live for the Jews or are allies to them in your level could be called a Jew because you should receive the same treatment and you are in the same position 2- This statement doesn't strengthen your credibility, you are in denial. Jews exist there is a religiuon called Judaism, you look like crazy saying things like this
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Post by snakeway666 on Nov 20, 2023 21:47:30 GMT
If someone was good enough to beat the JREF paranormal challenge, then they'd be able to be good enough to also have billions of whatever currency, so at the end of the day the JREF challenge wouldn't mean anything. Either that, or the practitioner wouldn't need a lot of money, so the incentive is wasted/lost on the good-enough practitioner. e.g. They might have their own smallholding with farm animals and crops which the food from they sell and make a decent enough income from that; a million would be teasing but unneeded. But on the JREF website they state that the challenge isn't about the money. The money is just an incentive or bonus. The challenge is about the advancement of knowledge and uncovering truth about the paranormal. Anyway, the challenge was terminated shortly after James Randi's death in 2020. web.randi.org/the-million-dollar-challenge.htmlIn other world this challenge is for people who think like Michael Jackson
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Post by snakeway666 on Nov 20, 2023 21:47:49 GMT
In other words#
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Post by Druan on Nov 21, 2023 4:21:02 GMT
Calling me a Jew is problematic for two reasons: 1. It doesn't strengthen your argument for having spiritual powers. 2. There is no objective proof that Judaism is real i.e. anything more than an idea in our imaginations. 1- Those who live for the Jews or are allies to them in your level could be called a Jew because you should receive the same treatment and you are in the same position 2- This statement doesn't strengthen your credibility, you are in denial. Jews exist there is a religiuon called Judaism, you look like crazy saying things like this
All religions and cultures are made up. Can you give objective proof that the Jewish race, culture or religion is anything more than an idea that exists in our minds?
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Post by Druan on Nov 21, 2023 4:22:15 GMT
But on the JREF website they state that the challenge isn't about the money. The money is just an incentive or bonus. The challenge is about the advancement of knowledge and uncovering truth about the paranormal. Anyway, the challenge was terminated shortly after James Randi's death in 2020. web.randi.org/the-million-dollar-challenge.htmlIn other world this challenge is for people who think like Michael Jackson It's not about healing the world, it's about knowing and documenting truth and the advancement of knowledge.
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Post by snakeway666 on Nov 21, 2023 11:25:12 GMT
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Post by coolstorybro on Nov 21, 2023 17:17:24 GMT
Druan, why are you ignoring me when i say jews dont even exist
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