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Post by snakeway666 on Oct 15, 2023 0:39:32 GMT
I am sick of this new age spiritualist constantly mentioning Karma, as if there was a system that keeps things in order, simply because they can't deal with the nature of reality.
Things only come back at people when other people make it so. People get away with bad deeds even crimes if no one cares to make them pay for it. But I suppose it implies you will have to move your ass and work for things to happen so hold on to the lie of Karma, The Akasha and shhieet...
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Post by Druan on Oct 15, 2023 14:18:16 GMT
Here are some improved and clarified points on my journey from being a theist to becoming a skeptic/atheist: Objective proof for the existence of God or a higher power remains elusive. Our society operates under the assumption of a higher power's existence. Everything that binds society is a product of social construction. Therefore, we can conclude that: Tradition is a social construct. Justice lacks objective reality; it's a social construct. Morality is not objectively real; it's a social construct. Love doesn't have an objective basis. Human rights are not objectively real. Friendship is also a social construct. Money is not objectively real. Culture, like the rest, is a social construct. Language is a social construct. Gender, too, is a product of social construction. This list could go on indefinitely. Now, let's explore the implications of these ideas in the context of Karma. If Karma were real, it would imply the existence of a higher law or force governing our lives and distributing justice to maintain balance. However, as we've discussed, the concept of objective justice is untenable. While living in a world without objective justice presents numerous challenges, a significant realization is that those in positions of power can act with impunity, seemingly above the law. Criticizing their abuse of power becomes complicated because morality itself lacks an objective foundation. In this paradigm, "might makes right," where those with power do as they please, and there is often someone mightier than you.
I have reflected on this before:
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Post by factsorfeelings1234 on Oct 16, 2023 7:34:14 GMT
I am sick of this new age spiritualist constantly mentioning Karma, as if there was a system that keeps things in order, simply because they can't deal with the nature of reality. Things only come back at people when other people make it so. People get away with bad deeds even crimes if no one cares to make them pay for it. But I suppose it implies you will have to move your ass and work for things to happen so hold on to the lie of Karma, The Akasha and shhieet... Being sick and tired doesn't prove one's point. Regarding your claims here, I ask you - can you demonstrate what you said? Some people think that Karma is merely retribution, or divine retribution one might say; while others say Karma is the result of your works, what you put in depends on what you get out which then keeps you on the right or wrong path in life. There is, of course, also the Internet meme of 'instant karma', but that's just for lols and views and subscriptions. |
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Post by Druan on Oct 16, 2023 9:30:46 GMT
snakeway666, factsorfeelings1234, Who is this new age spiritualist? Maxine Dietrich? Don Danko? Zola? Or is it some other quack that I don't know about?
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Post by Druan on Oct 16, 2023 10:33:44 GMT
I am sick of this new age spiritualist constantly mentioning Karma, as if there was a system that keeps things in order, simply because they can't deal with the nature of reality. Things only come back at people when other people make it so. People get away with bad deeds even crimes if no one cares to make them pay for it. But I suppose it implies you will have to move your ass and work for things to happen so hold on to the lie of Karma, The Akasha and shhieet... Being sick and tired doesn't prove one's point. Regarding your claims here, I ask you - can you demonstrate what you said? Some people think that Karma is merely retribution, or divine retribution one might say; while others say Karma is the result of your works, what you put in depends on what you get out which then keeps you on the right or wrong path in life. There is, of course, also the Internet meme of 'instant karma', but that's just for lols and views and subscriptions. Is it possible that the concept of Karma can be rooted in a cognitive bias known as the Just world hypothesis?
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Post by factsorfeelings1234 on Oct 16, 2023 15:33:22 GMT
snakeway666 , factsorfeelings1234 , Who is this new age spiritualist? Maxine Dietrich? Don Danko? Zola? Or is it some other quack that I don't know about? I am biased towards JoS; therefore, Maxine Dietrich. Reason include while I don't practice properly, the little that I have done has had results; and others on ancient-forums, completely separate from myself, had very similar results with in the same meditations than what I had. I haven't mentioned what meditations I did on there; I just saw others posting who had done the same meditations as I and explaining the results they had, which are very similar to my own results. About T4S - that's just a cesspit of nonsense. Don came out and said "what I got wrong". I didn't read it, but I suspect it was referring to work done on JoS. Zola, lastly, seems to copy from elsewhere and reword things to pretend the work is her own.
As for who this new-age spiritualist that snakeway666 mentioned is, I have no idea. I am guessing that it might be influencers on tiktok or youtube, etc. |
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Post by factsorfeelings1234 on Oct 16, 2023 15:37:24 GMT
Being sick and tired doesn't prove one's point. Regarding your claims here, I ask you - can you demonstrate what you said? Some people think that Karma is merely retribution, or divine retribution one might say; while others say Karma is the result of your works, what you put in depends on what you get out which then keeps you on the right or wrong path in life. There is, of course, also the Internet meme of 'instant karma', but that's just for lols and views and subscriptions. Is it possible that the concept of Karma can be rooted in a cognitive bias known as the Just world hypothesis?
I think in very basic terms, a hypothesis is an idea that someone has, that they come-up with or which they might be inspired by something else to think about, which they then use tools and methods to check to see if they are correct. I hypothesise that if you wear a clown costume and go to the Middle East and lol about, you'll end the war there before it gets worse. It's an idea, and... we could test it, but I know we won't! |
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Post by Druan on Oct 16, 2023 16:16:15 GMT
Is it possible that the concept of Karma can be rooted in a cognitive bias known as the Just world hypothesis?
I think in very basic terms, a hypothesis is an idea that someone has, that they come-up with or which they might be inspired by something else to think about, which they then use tools and methods to check to see if they are correct. I hypothesise that if you wear a clown costume and go to the Middle East and lol about, you'll end the war there before it gets worse. It's an idea, and... we could test it, but I know we won't! The "just world hypothesis" is a cognitive bias or belief system that refers to the tendency of people to believe that the world is inherently just and fair, and that individuals generally get what they deserve. This bias leads individuals to assume that good things happen to good people, and bad things happen to bad people, as a way to make sense of the world and reduce feelings of insecurity and uncertainty. |
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Post by Druan on Oct 16, 2023 16:20:32 GMT
snakeway666 , factsorfeelings1234 , Who is this new age spiritualist? Maxine Dietrich? Don Danko? Zola? Or is it some other quack that I don't know about? I am biased towards JoS; therefore, Maxine Dietrich. Reason include while I don't practice properly, the little that I have done has had results; and others on ancient-forums, completely separate from myself, had very similar results with in the same meditations than what I had. I haven't mentioned what meditations I did on there; I just saw others posting who had done the same meditations as I and explaining the results they had, which are very similar to my own results. About T4S - that's just a cesspit of nonsense. Don came out and said "what I got wrong". I didn't read it, but I suspect it was referring to work done on JoS. Zola, lastly, seems to copy from elsewhere and reword things to pretend the work is her own.
As for who this new-age spiritualist that snakeway666 mentioned is, I have no idea. I am guessing that it might be influencers on tiktok or youtube, etc. If I understand you correctly, you are saying that you have a favorable view of the JoS because of the positive outcomes that you experienced from their meditations. These results were confirmed by others that had similar outcomes when practicing the meditations. Can you tell me more about these meditations and the outcomes that you experienced? |
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Post by snakeway666 on Oct 16, 2023 20:52:43 GMT
I am talking about new agers I see on youtube. It is in another language so you will not be able to understand.
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Post by snakeway666 on Oct 16, 2023 20:54:32 GMT
He just adds karm into everything and talks to grays, thats a bad sign
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Post by Druan on Oct 16, 2023 21:03:53 GMT
snakeway666 , Okay I understand. This new age guy is obviously a charlatan and a cut leader. A fake, a phony and a quack.
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Post by snakeway666 on Oct 16, 2023 21:31:49 GMT
I don't think he is a charlatain, he is in actual contact with grays, he is programmed and misleaded. He can't stop adding karma into everything
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Post by Druan on Oct 17, 2023 3:54:19 GMT
snakeway666 how can we be sure that gray aliens are real?
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Post by snakeway666 on Oct 17, 2023 4:56:08 GMT
snakeway666 how can we be sure that gray aliens are real? If you meditate as instructed in the JoyofSatan website you will develop/open clarivoyance and you are going to see them. It was the first thing I saw, lots of them in my room. I have seen reptilians too. I remember you telling a story about being visited by some in your diary in the T4S. Was it a lie? |
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