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Post by Druan on Oct 17, 2023 8:17:08 GMT
snakeway666 how can we be sure that gray aliens are real? If you meditate as instructed in the JoyofSatan website you will develop/open clarivoyance and you are going to see them. It was the first thing I saw, lots of them in my room. I have seen reptilians too. I remember you telling a story about being visited by some in your diary in the T4S. Was it a lie? Indeed, HP Black Mamba was a pseudonymous online persona I crafted with the purpose of engaging with theistic Satanists, in a manner some might describe as 'trolling,' and injecting a bit of humor into the discourse. I'll admit, I made a plethora of over-the-top claims, and it's amusing that some individuals took them quite seriously. However, what truly piqued my interest and added a layer of entertainment to the entire experience were those who didn't fall for the act. The interaction with those who were skeptical or critical of my claims offered an engaging dynamic. It allowed me to appreciate the power of discourse, the diversity of perspectives, and the art of constructive criticism. These exchanges encouraged me to reflect upon my own beliefs and assumptions, which, in the grand scheme of things, was both thought-provoking and enriching. HP Black Mamba served as an experiment in online interaction, sparking both laughter and critical discussions. My real values, rooted in atheism, amorality, agender identity, acultural appreciation, and an apolitical outlook, reflect my unique perspective on the world and my commitment to independent thinking and self-discovery."
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Post by snakeway666 on Oct 17, 2023 8:59:02 GMT
ok, the agender thing it's a gate I would not want to open
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Post by Druan on Oct 17, 2023 10:10:46 GMT
ok, the agender thing it's a gate I would not want to open It just means that I don't identify with any gender.
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Post by Druan on Oct 17, 2023 15:18:03 GMT
I am a godless, moralless, countryless, nameless, numberless, genderless, raceless entity. I have no identity.
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Post by factsorfeelings1234 on Oct 20, 2023 18:59:46 GMT
I think in very basic terms, a hypothesis is an idea that someone has, that they come-up with or which they might be inspired by something else to think about, which they then use tools and methods to check to see if they are correct. I hypothesise that if you wear a clown costume and go to the Middle East and lol about, you'll end the war there before it gets worse. It's an idea, and... we could test it, but I know we won't! The "just world hypothesis" is a cognitive bias or belief system that refers to the tendency of people to believe that the world is inherently just and fair, and that individuals generally get what they deserve. This bias leads individuals to assume that good things happen to good people, and bad things happen to bad people, as a way to make sense of the world and reduce feelings of insecurity and uncertainty. Ah. I misread what you said. I thought you meant "just the word 'hypothesis'" but missed out the "the". My reply is irrelevant now. If Karma does exist, and is based on different understandings, or misunderstandings, presented in this thread, then I think any cognitive bias and opinion don't matter. Can Karma be rooted in the 'just world' hypothesis? I haven't given that any thought.
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Post by snakeway666 on Oct 20, 2023 19:17:19 GMT
It is an excuse for lazy ass people to sit on their couch and let evil doers be dealt by karma.
The world is in the law of nature, nature is not just nor injust, it just is what it is. But a society can have a justice system, Like Satan's kingdom. people who are part of Satan's kingdom could receive Justice because it is part of that civilization.
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Post by factsorfeelings1234 on Oct 20, 2023 19:18:54 GMT
I am biased towards JoS; therefore, Maxine Dietrich. Reason include while I don't practice properly, the little that I have done has had results; and others on ancient-forums, completely separate from myself, had very similar results with in the same meditations than what I had. I haven't mentioned what meditations I did on there; I just saw others posting who had done the same meditations as I and explaining the results they had, which are very similar to my own results. About T4S - that's just a cesspit of nonsense. Don came out and said "what I got wrong". I didn't read it, but I suspect it was referring to work done on JoS. Zola, lastly, seems to copy from elsewhere and reword things to pretend the work is her own. As for who this new-age spiritualist that snakeway666 mentioned is, I have no idea. I am guessing that it might be influencers on tiktok or youtube, etc. If I understand you correctly, you are saying that you have a favorable view of the JoS because of the positive outcomes that you experienced from their meditations. These results were confirmed by others that had similar outcomes when practicing the meditations. Can you tell me more about these meditations and the outcomes that you experienced? I am in favour of the JoS, yes. This is my own opinion, and I am speaking from experience. The two meditations in question which I did were very basic ones - - vibrating a Word of Power in the process of opening the Third Eye. Posting about this, people replied (I forgot the replies; it is either on the current forum and I just can't remember the replies, or it was on the old forum and that is gone) and they confirmed or at least supported what I said about my experience, from their own knowledge/experience. My experience was of seeing a flash or blob of blue light where there was no blue light present;
- doing Void Meditation to still my thoughts and control my Mind - this was only a part of the result. The other part I am referring to here is that doing Void Meditation also helped me to visualise better, which was an entirely unintentional and unexpected result, so I consider that a bonus, a happy accident
I saw two other users posting about doing these themselves, respectively. The one doing the Opening the Third Eye meditation said they also saw blue while they were doing it; the other who did Void Meditation said it also helped them to visualise better. I consider these either direct confirmation that I was not delusional and just hallucinating, or if I am being sceptical, they still seems to point to the same, or very similar, conclusions, respectively, of our 3 results. It is like in scientific process of peer-reviewing - although these technically were not deliberate peer-reviewing situations, they very well could have been, and I consider it valid. I do resalise, however, that having more results by many individuals e.g. 1000 results by 1000 individuals would be so much better than merely 2 (excluding myself) to give a stronger, more solid determination, though. Regardless, their 2 respective results which they mentioned after having done their meditations separately from me were practically the same results as my own. Just these two situations alone are actual results, compared with christianity. These mere 2 results from my own meditations are more results than I ever had when I was a christian, which was zero. On top of that, with these two other users basically confirming it for me, even though they didn't intend to, that is something also not experienced in christianity. It's not a "god spoke to me" feeling; I did an exercise, and another, and I got results; later, 2 other individuals did the same exercises respectively and they came to the same, or very similar, results as I did. The Opening the Third Eye was very short in time - literally a couple of minutes each session and only for 4 days in a row. The Void Meditation I needed to build up longer, so that was more into the weeks timeframe for me, and the better visualisation happened not immediately and all at once; rather, it increased the more I did the Void Meditation. It was quite subtle because I hardly realised, but at a point - like I said, maybe 3 or so weeks into it - I realised that I could visualise better than I used to. I have not done other meditations since. I would like to share more experiences, though, and of course compare my results with that of others, but currently I have not done any other meditations at this point.
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Post by Druan on Oct 20, 2023 21:28:25 GMT
It is an excuse for lazy ass people to sit on their couch and let evil doers be dealt by karma. The world is in the law of nature, nature is not just nor injust, it just is what it is. But a society can have a justice system, Like Satan's kingdom. people who are part of Satan's kingdom could receive Justice because it is part of that civilization. Is there objective proof that justice can exist? Or is justice an idea in the minds of humans i.e. a social construct?
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Post by Druan on Oct 20, 2023 21:28:55 GMT
The "just world hypothesis" is a cognitive bias or belief system that refers to the tendency of people to believe that the world is inherently just and fair, and that individuals generally get what they deserve. This bias leads individuals to assume that good things happen to good people, and bad things happen to bad people, as a way to make sense of the world and reduce feelings of insecurity and uncertainty. Ah. I misread what you said. I thought you meant "just the word 'hypothesis'" but missed out the "the". My reply is irrelevant now. If Karma does exist, and is based on different understandings, or misunderstandings, presented in this thread, then I think any cognitive bias and opinion don't matter. Can Karma be rooted in the 'just world' hypothesis? I haven't given that any thought. You should seriously give it some thought.
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Post by snakeway666 on Oct 20, 2023 22:20:07 GMT
It is an excuse for lazy ass people to sit on their couch and let evil doers be dealt by karma. The world is in the law of nature, nature is not just nor injust, it just is what it is. But a society can have a justice system, Like Satan's kingdom. people who are part of Satan's kingdom could receive Justice because it is part of that civilization. Is there objective proof that justice can exist? Or is justice an idea in the minds of humans i.e. a social construct? Injustice is harming an innocent for no reason at all. Justice is payment in the form of pain an suffering
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Post by Druan on Oct 21, 2023 4:06:41 GMT
Some questions come to mind. please answer these for me. snakeway666, Who determines what is "harmful"? How to determine who is innocent? How do we measure how much pain and suffering is appropriate? Why do different societies have separate ideas about justice?
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Post by snakeway666 on Oct 21, 2023 5:00:52 GMT
Some questions come to mind. please answer these for me. snakeway666 , Who determines what is "harmful"? How to determine who is innocent? How do we measure how much pain and suffering is appropriate? Why do different societies have separate ideas about justice? If you meditate your soul will bring to the surface from the subconscious everything wrong people did to you, and you willnever be in peace until people pay. Until your soul is at rest there is no justice
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Post by Druan on Oct 21, 2023 7:24:29 GMT
So by your own logic, every individual determines for themselves what is "harmful", who is innocent, how much punishment to meet out etc. through meditation. One individual's framework maybe wildly different from another's, which makes it completely subjective. Is there no objective way to verify what the "just standard" is for everyone to abide by?
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Post by snakeway666 on Oct 21, 2023 8:47:00 GMT
So by your own logic, every individual determines for themselves what is "harmful", who is innocent, how much punishment to meet out etc. through meditation. One individual's framework maybe wildly different from another's, which makes it completely subjective. Is there no objective way to verify what the "just standard" is for everyone to abide by? There should be, I expected an advanced civilization would have it's own laws made by Gods much more capable than myself
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Post by Druan on Oct 21, 2023 11:10:45 GMT
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