Druan
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Post by Druan on Oct 18, 2023 13:28:20 GMT
Does not having an Identity dissolve prejudice? |
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Post by snakeway666 on Oct 19, 2023 4:47:41 GMT
You need to stop caring about what other people think. Who cares if someone has prejudice? You don't even know the person who has prejudice against you. I think this comes from the christian Idea that everyone should love the next person and be loved by others. This is not true, most people are completly irrelevant and should be ignored
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Post by Druan on Oct 19, 2023 12:12:31 GMT
snakeway666, I understand where you're coming from, and I appreciate your perspective. It's true that not everyone's opinion should matter to us, especially if it's rooted in prejudice or ignorance. While it's important not to be overly concerned with what others think of us, my approach is more about avoiding bias and prejudice in my own thinking. Maintaining an open and unbiased mindset can lead to more constructive interactions and a deeper understanding of others. By questioning whether not having a rigid identity can help dissolve prejudice, I'm focusing on personal growth and creating a more inclusive and empathetic environment for myself and those around me. I personally want to be able to look beyond stereotypes and preconceptions to see the unique qualities and experiences of each individual.
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Post by snakeway666 on Oct 20, 2023 19:00:56 GMT
So you wanted to dissolve your own prejudice against others. I am too used to whiners crying about the prejudice they suffer, I was in college recently
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Post by Druan on Oct 20, 2023 21:20:13 GMT
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Post by sunflower on Oct 29, 2023 19:40:51 GMT
Does not having an Identity dissolve prejudice? I recently meditated about identity. What I concluded is that everyone is fake in one way or another. A person's singular consciousness can never encompass the entirety of their being all at once, so a simplified ego is formed to rationalize one's perspective and views. On top of that, everyone presents and projects themselves in a way outwardly, which can also never carry the true depth of the person's true self beyond superficial representations. That is inherently a persona, and can also be seen in the difference in how people act depending on whom they're around. The true self is in the underlying thread.
A benefit of having multiple egos is that even if one ego is insulted, others might take it as a compliment. And if there is no well-defined ego whatsoever, then no statement can be taken as an insult or compliment. As such, in general, not being overly attached to a single ego can increase mental and emotional defence in regards to prejudice. Others might still discriminate against you based on how they perceive you, but if you're able to outwardly project different personas, you can, in a sense, choose which type of bias you face from others to best suit your needs and circumstances, by controlling which sides of you others see. The latter is fairly normal even if people don't talk about it much: it's called masking to blend in socially.
However, having an unclear sense of one's views and priorities can also leave one highly vulnerable to manipulation. In fact, one of the key benefits of a well-defined ego is the ability to wholeheartedly stand up for the things most important to you. If you feel detached (for example dissociating) and can easily be convinced that things don't really matter to you, that leaving you defenceless to abuse, which you could even internalize and perpetuate upon yourself. That's why I think that ultimately, rather than detaching from yourself, it's better to detach from outsiders. Though it takes confidence and self-love, it's fulfilling to do the things I believe in even if others can't believe it; it's like finding the hidden gems of reality that others can't see.
If you meant whether a lack of identity will stop you from discriminating against others: a lack of identity implies a lack of values, therefore you have no investment in anything and there's no reason to discriminate. To not have prejudice about something you're invested in inherently requires you to distance yourself from that part of your ego, at least temporarily. It can also be called suspension of disbelief, as you are foregoing your own common sense in favour of being open minded.
TL;DR: Yes, both ways.
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Post by Druan on Oct 29, 2023 19:49:41 GMT
Does not having an Identity dissolve prejudice? I recently meditated about identity. What I concluded is that everyone is fake in one way or another. A person's singular consciousness can never encompass the entirety of their being all at once, so a simplified ego is formed to rationalize one's perspective and views. On top of that, everyone presents and projects themselves in a way outwardly, which can also never carry the true depth of the person's true self beyond superficial representations. That is inherently a persona, and can also be seen in the difference in how people act depending on whom they're around. The true self is in the underlying thread.
A benefit of having multiple egos is that even if one ego is insulted, others might take it as a compliment. And if there is no well-defined ego whatsoever, then no statement can be taken as an insult or compliment. As such, in general, not being overly attached to a single ego can increase mental and emotional defence in regards to prejudice. Others might still discriminate against you based on how they perceive you, but if you're able to outwardly project different personas, you can, in a sense, choose which type of bias you face from others to best suit your needs and circumstances, by controlling which sides of you others see. The latter is fairly normal even if people don't talk about it much: it's called masking to blend in socially.
However, having an unclear sense of one's views and priorities can also leave one highly vulnerable to manipulation. In fact, one of the key benefits of a well-defined ego is the ability to wholeheartedly stand up for the things most important to you. If you feel detached (for example dissociating) and can easily be convinced that things don't really matter to you, that leaving you defenceless to abuse, which you could even internalize and perpetuate upon yourself. That's why I think that ultimately, rather than detaching from yourself, it's better to detach from outsiders. Though it takes confidence and self-love, it's fulfilling to do the things I believe in even if others can't believe it; it's like finding the hidden gems of reality that others can't see.
If you meant whether a lack of identity will stop you from discriminating against others: a lack of identity implies a lack of values, therefore you have no investment in anything and there's no reason to discriminate. To not have prejudice about something you're invested in inherently requires you to distance yourself from that part of your ego, at least temporarily. It can also be called suspension of disbelief, as you are foregoing your own common sense in favour of being open minded.
TL;DR: Yes, both ways.
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